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The GG1 and AC Motors

Doing the Math

The GG1 utilized 12 six-pole motors (GEA-627-A1), 400 volts at 25 Hz. Each motor was rated at 385 hp, with the 12 motors mounted in pairs over each of the six driving axles. Each motor was geared to what is called a "quill," a shroud around the axle itself, and the quill was connected to the drivers themselves by means of spring and cup arrangement. The motors themselves were mounted on the frame, providing a flexible suspension system: this allowed essentially full and equal traction for each of the drivers regardless of track condition. (There are several sites with diagrams and photos of the GG1, its transformer, motors, and quill drive: see, for example, www.steamlocomotive.com's GG1 page and from The American Society of Mechanical Engineers their GG1 brochure and landmark page.)

These notes on the GG1 started as a simple example of how AC motors work: known quantities (AC frequency, size of drivers, gearing) equal known quantities speed of locomotive). However, the GG1 turned out to be a bad example of modern AC traction, in that it does not use modern AC traction, so to speak: it did not work out as an AC induction motor. Unfortunately, there is not a lot of technical information on the motors themselves. There are plenty of photographs and diagrams of the locomotove and there are photographs of the motors, but as of the date this was prepared (originally in early 2003, but subsequently revised through late 2004), no wiring diagrams or even general descriptions of the motor internals has surfaced. So, this required a bit of detective work (more so than just being a historian).

Here is what happened as I researched the motors (skip ahead to the punchline):

  1. First, the givens,
    1. The GG1 had passenger gearing of 24/77 and was rated for 100 miles per hour (freights were 22/79 for 90 mph).
    2. The GG1 had 57" diameter drivers.
    3. The GG1 had six-pole motors.
    4. The electrical supply was 25 cycle AC (i.e., 25 Hz) at 11,000 volts.

  2. Next, some calculations,
    1. A 57" driver has a circumference of 179.07 inches (thus it will travel 179.07 inches per revolution, about 15 feet).
    2. A 25Hz, six-pole induction motor has approximately a 480 rpm full load speed:
      • 25 Hz / (6/2) [i.e., poles/2] = 8 1/3 * 60 [seconds per minute]= 500 * .96 [efficiency factor] = 480 rpm.
    3. 480 rpm with a 24/77 reduction gear produces 137 rpm.
    4. 179.07 inches per revolution * 137 revolutions per minute = 23.23 miles per hour
      • 179.07 inches per revolution * 137 revolutions per minute = 24,532.59 inches per minute (about 2,044 feet per minute)
      • 24,532.59 inches per minute = 1,471,955.4 inches per hour
      • 1,471,955.4 inches per hour = 122,662.95 feet per hour
      • 122,662.95 feet per hour = 23.23 miles per hour
    5. A 57" driver would need to turn at 589.71 rpm to make 100 mph.
      • 100 miles per hour * (5280 feet per mile * 12 inches per foot) =
      • 6,336,000 inches per hour, which equals 105,600 inches per minute.
      • 105,600 inches per minute / 179.07 inches per revolution = 589.71 revolutions per minute.
    6. 589.71 rpm @ 24:77 gearing = 1891.99 rpm at the motor.

    That does not work as an induction motor: 1892 rpm required at the motor (step 6) versus 480 rpm computed for this motor (step 2).

  3. Other options?
    1. Power control on the GG1 was through a "Tap Changer": there was no motor/generator or other means of chaning the 25 cycle AC to anything else. If the tap changer on GG1 transformer were to have had taps that cycled through the pole pairs on the motors as well as through the transformer windings (cycling through the transformer windings varies the output voltage of the transformer), and it finally got to two poles, this would have approximately a 1440 rpm full load speed (it is unlikely that an AC motor would do this due to the nature of the motor windings, but as noted elsewhere, it would not have been impossible):
      • 25 Hz / (2/2) = 25 * 60 = 1500 rpm * .96 = 1440 rpm.
    2. But 1440 rpm @ 24:77 gearing is still short:
      • 1440 rpm * (24/77) = 449 rpm.
      • 179.07 inches per revolution @ 451.95 rpm = 80,402 inches per minute.
      • 80,402 in/min = 4,824,145 in/hr = 402,012 ft/hr = 76 mph.

    So anyway, that's not right, either.

Here was the detective work. Although all the math is obvious, this comes out not even close. From the number of different resources, it appears clear that speed, gearing, and size of the drivers is correct. It was 25 cycle AC. It is also evident that the number of poles for the motors is correct, although there are fewer clearly indpendent resources that can be used to confirm that (nothing says anything but six poles). Given that, the fastest that an induction motor could turn was is 480 rpm (just for now forgetting the possibility of the 1450 rpm with the transformer taps changing the feed to the windings on the stator). Working backward from the 57 inch driver moving at 100 mph, the axle had to be turning at about 590 rpm, and with the 24:77 gearing that means the motor shaft had to be turning at about 1900 rpm. It has been noted elsewhere that the locomotive tested at 110 mph, which gives an axle rotation of nearly 650 rpm and a motor shaft rotation of 2085 rpm; so, the synchronous speed of this motor would have to be at least 2100 rpm. Unfortunately, a 25 cycle AC induction motor cannot turn at 2100 rpm: the rotor cannot turn at anything over 1500 rpm under any circumstances. There is something else happening here.

A fairly simple spreadsheet presents these relationships (as if the GG1 were to have had induction motors) at the end of this page (go to the tables).

The GG1 Without All the Math

There is a six pole AC motor that will operate at 2100 rpm: a "universal motor." A universal motor can operate on either AC or DC (see AC Motors and the motors graphic).

The rotor has coils that are connected to the external circuit through a commutator on the shaft. The electrical field in the rotor will oppose the electrical field in the stator at any given moment, regardless of whether or not the polarity of the supply current changes with time. With DC, a DC field in the rotor will always oppose a DC field in the stator in the same direction; with AC, as the AC cycle alternates, it will alternate identically in the rotor and the stator, so there too there will always be opposition.

Universal motors may operate a high speeds regardless of the supply frequency, up to 10,000 to 20,000 rpm. They characteristically have high power-to-weight and power-to-size ratios and high starting torque.

Here are the actual GG1 numbers: the speed of the motor is limited by the load on the motor (i.e., the weight of the train). The transformer taps vary the voltage applied to the motor, with increased voltage driving increased current through the load on the circuit (i.e., the motor) and driving the motor at a higher speed.

Table One: Universal Motor Examples

  entered values ==> computed values ==> given
Drivers Motors Gearing Motor
  Speed
Axle
  Speed
Travel
diameter AC freq poles ratio reduction
(inches) (cps) (rpm) (rpm) (in/min) (in/hr) (ft/min) (ft/hr) (mph)
As Specified:
  - - pass.(1) 57 25 6 24 : 77 0.311688 1891.99 589.711 105,600 6,336,000 8,800 528,000 100.00
  - - pass.(2) 57 25 6 24 : 77 0.311688 2081.19 648.682 116,160 6,969,000 9,680 580,800 110.00
  - - freight 57 25 6 22 : 79 0.278481 1905.84 530.739 95,040 5,702,400 7,920 475,200 90.00
Notes:
(1) Passenger Design Speed
(2) Passenger Test Speed


Table Two: Hypothetical Induction Motor Examples

NOT the GG1

  entered values ==> computed values ==>
Drivers Motors Gearing Axle
  Speed
Travel ERROR
(*) diameter AC freq poles slip speed ratio reduction % of
actual
multiple
required
  (inches) (cps) (1-slip) (rpm) (n:1) (rpm) (in/min) (in/hr) (ft/min) (ft/hr) (mph)
As Specified:
  -- passenger 57 25 6 0.96 480 24 : 77 0.311688 149.61 26,790.85 1,607,450.96 2,232.57 133,954.25 25.37 25.37% 3.941644
  -- freight 57 25 6 0.96 480 22 : 79 0.278481 133.67 23,936.55 1,436,193.00 1,994.71 119,682.75 22.67 25.19% 3.970497
Changing Poles:
  -- 4 poles 57 25 4 0.96 720 24 : 77 0.311688 224.42 40,186.27 2,411,176.44 3,348.86 200,931.37 38.06 42.28% 2.627763
  -- 2 poles 57 25 2 0.96 1440 24 : 77 0.311688 448.83 80,372.55 4,822,352.88 6,697.71 401,862.74 76.11 76.11% 1.313881
Less Slip:
  -- 6 poles 57 25 6 0.99 495 24 : 77 0.311688 154.29 27,628.06 1,657,683.80 2,302.34 138,140.32 26.16 26.16% 3.822201
  -- 2 poles 57 25 2 0.99 1485 24 : 77 0.311688 462.86 82,884.19 4,973,051.41 6,907.02 414,420.95 78.49 78.49% 1.274067
No Slip Speeds:
  -- 2 poles   25 2 1.00 1500  
  -- 4 poles 25 4 1.00 750
  -- 6 poles 25 6 1.00 500
Working Backward
  fixed values ==> <== computed values (simple conversions of entered speed) (mph)  
  -- 100 mph 57 25 6 0.96 1892 24 : 77 0.311688 589.711 105,600 6,336,000 8,800 528,000 100.00
  -- 110 mph 57 25 6 0.96 2081 24 : 77 0.311688 648.682 116,160 6,969,000 9,680 580,800 110.00
    2085 24 : 77 0.311688 650  
Notes:
red= known values


The GG1 Quill Drive

This is pretty much irrelevant in terms of the AC motors themselves, but some people find this a difficult concept to grasp (and I did at first, too). Perhaps the following diagrams will help with the visualization process.

The Basic Quill:
A Hollow Tube

drawing of GG1 quill

The Quill with an Axle

drawing of quill with axle protruding

The axle passes through the hollow quill.

The Quill with an Axle: Fully Transversing

drawing of quill with axle fully transversing

The Quill with Mounted Motors

drawing of quill with mounted motors

The motors sit on top of the quill.

Motors with DriveShafts

drawing of motors with driveshafts, parallel to the axle/quill assembly

The drive shafts are parallel to the axle/quill assembly.

Drive wheels with drive gears

drawing of wheel with drive gears

The drive shafts each connect to one small gear that both drive a single large gear connected to the wheel.



A Different Approach: The Milwaukee Road's "Bipolar" Electric Locomotives

drawing of Bipolar locomotive: Media by McCann.

A different approach to a high-speed electric passenger locomotive was followed by the Milwaukee Road (CMStP&P). Classified as an express passenger locomotive, the Milwaukee "Bipolar" -- developed by General Electric -- was so-named because of its motor: the bipolar utilized two-pole DC motors. The unit utilized a total of 12 of these motors, each of which was rated at 370 horsepower and was gearless. The feed to the locomotive was 3,000 volts DC fed via overhead catenary. A few other specifications are as follows:

Table Three: Milwaukee Bipolar

Weight: 457,000 lbs
Adhesion: 530,000 lbs
Max. Axleload: 38,500 lbs
Overall Length: 76ft 0in
Tractive Effort: 123,500 lbs
Max. Speed: 70 mph
Horse Power: 4,020 hp.


References and Credits

GG1 technical specifications from www.steamlocomotive.com (The Pennsylvania Railroad GG1) and from The American Society of Mechanical Engineers (Pennsylvania Railroad GG1 Electric Locomotive #4800); general diagrams of various incarnations of the GG1 may be found at Rob's Pennsy home page (PRR Electric Locomotive diagrams). Bipolar locomotive graphic courtesy of Media by McCann ("Inside the Roundhouse"); technical specificaions from Chris Ashmore, Transportation Artist.

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